NFIB California State Director John Kabateck teams up with his brother, Brian Kabateck, a former president of the Consumer Attorneys of California with his own Los Angeles-based consumer law practice, for Episode 1, Season 1 of KabaTalks.

The brothers Kabateck interview Jot Condie, president and CEO of the California Restaurant Association, about the future of his industry. “It’s going to be a long slog for our industry, two- to three-year recovery before we get back to any semblance of normalcy—whatever the hell that looks like.”

Are coffee shops dying in urban cores? Condie gives his thought on this, how the restaurant industry is coping with the pandemic, and other insider observations in this lively 22-minute discussion with Brian and John Kabateck.

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